Creating a 225 combined piece

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Creating a 225 combined piece

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Hi,

Ive had this question before, and I dont know the answer. Ive never done it.

If i need to make a QL 225 combined what QL of each part I need.

Obviously the leading part needs to end up QL 225, so for that I need QL X bots of the leading part.

And the secondary part needs to end up QL Y min, so for that I need QL Z bots of the main type.

Please let me know if you know these values firsthand. And for future reference we can check this post.

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First, there's primary leadbots and secondary leadbots.

Primary:
Supple
Arithmetic
Enduring

Secondary:
Strong
Observant
Spiritual

As you may know, the Bio-Material you use for the primary part decides the final QL for the Combined armor piece. Secondary Bio-Material must be within !oe of the QL of the primary Bio-Material.

So in the case of a QL225 primary Bio-Material, you do:

[Athen Paladins] Lupusceleri: !oe 225
[Athen Paladins] Bobsan: With a skill of 225, you will be OE above 281 skill. With a requirement of 225 skill, you can have 180 without being OE.

This tells you two things:
1) Your secondary Bio-Material must be between QL180 and 300.
2) Your primary Leadbots must be between QL180 and QL300.

Then, you do an !oe for the QL of your secondary Bio-Material. So in the case of a QL225 primary, you need at least a QL180 secondary, resulting in:

[Athen Paladins] Lupusceleri: !oe 180
[Athen Paladins] Bobsan: With a skill of 180, you will be OE above 225 skill. With a requirement of 180 skill, you can have 144 without being OE.

This tells you one thing - your secondary Leadbots must be between QL144 and QL300, IF, and ONLY if your secondary Bio-Material is QL180.

To sum it all up, needed for a QL225 piece of Alien armor (QL-wise) is:

QL225 Bio-Material
QL180-QL300 primary Leadbots
QL180+ Bio-Material
QL144-QL300 secondary Leadbots (in case of a QL180 Bio-Material only)
QL225+ Kyr'Ozch Viralbots (-not- Leadbots)
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Ok what else can i add , 0 . Just great guide Lupus.
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Thanks Lup,

That is a good reference for me, and others that need this information!

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Perhaps move this to the Guides section.
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QL225+ Kyr'Ozch Viralbots (-not- Leadbots)
QL180+ Kyr'Ozch Viralbots (-not- Leadbots)
Not entierly correct.
The viralbost only need to be the same ql as the Leadbots, so its:
QL 180+ and QL 144+

Unlimited High Society has a "!armor <QL of armor>" command in bot that shows QL of the diffrent types you need to make combined. Maybe thats somthing Bobsan also should get? I bet Mardonge has the code easy at hand:-)
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Forcenum wrote:
QL225+ Kyr'Ozch Viralbots (-not- Leadbots)
QL180+ Kyr'Ozch Viralbots (-not- Leadbots)
Not entierly correct.
The viralbost only need to be the same ql as the Leadbots, so its:
QL 180+ and QL 144+

Unlimited High Society has a "!armor <QL of armor>" command in bot that shows QL of the diffrent types you need to make combined. Maybe thats somthing Bobsan also should get? I bet Mardonge has the code easy at hand:-)
Minor correction there Force :p

Virals follows the same rules as Leads, meening min QL must not be lower than 80% of the bio it is applied on.

And about the !armor module, yes I have it easy at hand, but it's also available on bebot forums.
Could modify it a bit though, since some info is lacking there.
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this always helps me, scroll to the bottom, there is an alien armor calc that I use.

http://www.black-ogre.com/wc/consortium/
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