alphas on my crat

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alphas on my crat

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I have BoC, Helmet, DB sleeves, Covering, HUD3 abilities and treatment.
DB and Alb bracer.

2/3 pande belts. Red and yellow i think. Also the Xan viral belt.
Problem is going to be firstly getting all the intels, but after that stam and agi. Agi is going to be 200 odd short.

I have all xans on now but beta. What else will i need?

Stats atm wearing Xan Control w/ comp atts. not wearing any ability bootsers other than OFAB gloves, i calculated in the DNA perks.

STR 993
Stam 1063
Agi 943
Sense 1136
Int 1284
Psy 1255

Treat 1814 (with 1st aid + SFA + surgery + trickle from DNA).

Will add in HUD3 + BoC + helmet + DB gear + buffs tomorrow while working.

Would probably need to borrow a few Ability 3F NCU's. but then i lose treat.

If anyone who has done Alphas on a NM crat that would be cool. i'm AI21 btw.
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Edit: It seems i missed the part of u being nm this is for a soli but the thread is for a NM engi so should be the same for nm crat.



I'ff ur planning on putting in full Controls then this is what u gotta do to get the brain in (rest will be easy after that):

So - to keep it short: Setup
Buffs used:
NS, ICRT, comp attrib, ES, FG, Treatment expertise, SFA, treatment transfer, clinique, extruder.
Org bonuses used:
ql175 agi contract (+15), ql125 psychic contract (+11), ql200 treatment contract (+26), ql300 city (+9 to abils), ql275 juggling tower (+13 treat)

Int: 780 base + 484 equip + 37 buffs + 9 org = 1310
Psy: 780 base + 439 equip + 37 buffs + 20 org = 1276
Agi: 780 base + 433 equip + 39 buffs + 24 org = 1276
treat: 1134 base + 530 equip + 260 buffs + 39 org + 125 trickle = 2088

Putting in ql300 feet/rhand after it was a matter of few swaps and getting behe/ps.

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thanks for the post. I am missing the Zods items to do that otherwise i have those things or those things are easy enough to find.

Downside is they seem to have used intel in other spots also. I wont have the intel in the other spots. So i wonder how that will affect it.

Will keep looking i guess
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Ok so symbs needing
Sense = Eye/LA/LW/Feet
Agi = Brain/Ear/Waist/Thigh
Str = RA/RW/RH
Stam = Chest/LH

I assume i should twink them on at the same time based on their coupled stats.

I was planning on starting with the sense ones first. Eye will then buff agi + treat which helps. Feet will also buff agi. So +8 agi and +8 treat.

So for sense 1136 + 30(BoC) + 35 (yellow Belt) + 15 (ES) + 22 (ASS) + 40 (2x DB sleeves) + 22 (DB pants) = 1270 + 24 from Beta genome = 1294 (1276 is req)

Intel 1284 + 30 (BoC) + 22 (DB covering) + 48 (Alpha genome) + 20 (NS) - 35 (no xan viral) = 1369 (easy)

Psy 1255 + 30 (BoC) + 22 (DB) + 48 (A-genome) + 20 (NS) - 35 (no xan) = 1310 (easy)

Treat 1814 + 60 (TT) + 21 (trickle from extra Intel 85) + 30 (helmet) + 50 (treat pistols) + 20 (Med suit chest) = 1995 + 27 (ish from yuttos NCU) = 2022 + 100 (HUD3 - medical) = 2122 + 15 (s10 - medical) = 2137.

So LW/LA/feet is in easy.

Eye will lose 88 treat (79 treat + 39 int = 9ish treat) = 2049.... + 10 (biomech boots) + 7 (VTE Trickle) + 18 Treat library = 2084 + (10 from genius trickle) = 2094^^

Eye in^^

Dont have Biomech boots, treat pistols, 200 treat library (?)
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Ok so the above are pretty easy. I thought i should then go Str next as LH will then boost treat a bit again. May change my mind but lets see.....

New Stats:

Str: 997
Intel: 1288
Psy: 1255

Treat: 1818

Str 997 + 30 (BoC) + 22 (DB pants) + 54 (iBehe) + 60 (2x str pistol) + 35 (red belt) + 25 (DB chest) + 24 (B-genome) + 34 (ring of essence ql250x2, but not sure how high they go) + 39 (changing from Exterm -> Control beta thigh) = 1292

Intel 1288 - 35 (no xan belt) + 48 (A-genome) + 30 (BoC) + 22 (DB covering) + 20 (NS) + 40 (genius) + 30 (2xVTE) = 1443

Psy 1255 - 35 (no xan) + 48 (A- genome) + 30 (BoC) + 22 (DB covering) + 20 (NS) + 30 (VTE) = 1370

Treat 1818 + 60 (TT) + 18 (treat lib) + 28 (Med sleeves) + 37 (trickle intel) + 15 (alien - medical) + 10 (biomech boots) + 30 (Helmet) + 27 (ish Yuttos NCU) + 100 (HUD3) = 2143

RW/RH would go in but RA buff 66 Str which would leave me 50 short. If i replace with HUD3 i am 25 short on Str and then 40ish short on treat. With treat exp i'd be 20 short, which i could cover with org contracts or tower + lots of intel tweaking. omni gloves to add +10

Will need to check the treatment boost from my current NCU to full QL300 yuttos, may look more like 37 rather than 27. Which would mean Str is going to be 25 short!

Items i dont have... high QL ring of ess. 2x Str pistol. DB chest. Biomech boots. Treat Lib (?)

HALP!
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OK tough one. Lets try Agi....

Base Stats

Agi: 951
And i'll just assume i have more than enough Int/Psy as shown in earlier posts.

Agi 951 + 25 (HUD3) + 40 (DB sleeves) + 120 (2x G-staff?) + 35 (yellow belt) + 30 (BoC) + 40 (2x 300 RoDT) + 25 (FG) + 24 (B-genome) = 1265.... 12 short. How much can i get from our org contracts? since i dont have the halloween shoulders? If i can get 37 i can use the HUD3 - medical for +100 treat

Treat 1818 + 60 (TT) + 30 (medsuit chest & gloves) + 18 (treat Lib) + 10 (biomech boots) + 15 (alien - medical) + 37 (trickle) + 30 (Helmet) + 20 (treat exp i'm such a noob i forgot this in other steps) + 37 (ish from yuttos NCU) = 2075

13 short on treat but this is the Head one so i'd lose 130 treat and be 143 short. Would be 43 short if i could use HUD3 for treat. Add in maybe 30 for org contracts/tower still 13 short.

UGH.

Have all i nead for this except those mentioned before.
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OK last one... Stam...

Stam 1063 + 30 (BoC) + 54 (iBehe) + 20 (IC, does it stack) + 22 (DB covering) + 35 (yellow belt) + 40 (2x ql300 Ring of end) + 25 (DB chest) + 24 (B-genome) = 1313

Intel (assuming i didnt get in brain) 1818

1818 + 20 (exp) + 60 (TT) + 28 (med sleeves) + 10 (biomech boots) + 30 (Helmet) + 18 (treat lib) + 37 (trickle) + 15 (alien - med) + 100 (HUD3) + 37 (ish Yuttos NCU) = 2073 (if i got head in then this would be enough)

Will lose 66 stam from chest (need to dbl check i have control chest (i think i do)). so will be short for stam in waist. Can use HUD3 but then i lose 100 treat.

LH should go in fine. No idea for the Chest :(
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Elrojo wrote:Ok so symbs needing
Sense = Eye/LA/LW/Feet
Agi = Brain/Ear/Waist/Thigh
Str = RA/RW/RH
Stam = Chest/LH
Ok well the Order you want to do this in is .... RH EYE then Brain.
Then most likely RA/RW/RH & Chest/LH lastly Ear/Waist/Thigh

When you have calced your Treatment are you taking into account the 100 from the clinic & the 80 from SFA?

Also you can only use 1 G-staff for 60.... personally I would stick to pistols.
Then you also need to consider Your DB mems for +6 to Agil/Sense Str/Stam
And Spirit things from Pande..... you need 3 of the treatment ones for Huds +6Treat+3sense


Agility contract gives 22 I think at 250 I have to confirm that though might be higher.

P.S I usually do calcs ingame & see how close we need to take 10 min to look at the syms u want to put in & go from there but with BoC, & both Bracers & the 2 belts you have I do not forsee it being an issue to get your gear in.


One thing you might consider trying to get is the Aquarius gloves for +25 Treatment
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Ok. Update.

I did a full IPR on the crat after i finally got my lust. I had no IP left and was very short on burst :/

Sense = Eye/LA/LW/Feet

All went in very easy. With DB armour, BoC, Yuttos mems, Treat lib, RoDTx2 and buffs. IIRC no weaps were needed, used 100+ Treat hud.

Stam = Chest/LH

These went in easy too. Used 2x stam pistols. I forget the name. Used +25 HUD3. DB chest for +25. BoC, Helmet, Dread +20 endurance booster and buffs, used the +70 belt.

Str = RA/RW/RH

RA still to go. RW and RH was fairly easy also. Used Abilites mems. After eye went in treat was easy. Same as above except used Str/Stam rings.

Agi = Brain/Ear/Waist/Thigh

Brain was the hardest and went in last.. http://auno.org/ao/equip.php?saveid=145331

Ear/waist was easy. Went to PR for agi contract (+18). Thigh was harder, but used the same set up as in the previos link. Agi contract helped.

Curiously with brain the Psy stat was really the hardest thing. With more perks into Primary Genome it woulda been easy. Agi was tough. Needed the 2nd lya's. I left PR before i finished with the brain due to me being tired and telling Grindo the wrong stats. With higher Lya's and/or agi contract the whole thing woulda been easy.

BIG thanks to Grind, he helped for a few hours at least on the agi stuff. He was patient with me even though i had been up for 22 hours. Also honorable mention to Noobas, LK, Kitty, Pure and all those who leant me stuff.

Please hit me up ingame for the items.

Noobs = RoDT 300, Treat lib 200, anything else?

I forget others :( i was beyond tired!
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