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Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2015 3:51 pm
by Xandramas
Changing the motherboard has been viewed by MS as a new computer for quite a long time now - I remember around Windows Vista I did a motherboard upgrade and windows refused to recognise my machine

Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 3:23 pm
by Malosar
The problem is that retail versions of windows could be used on new computers, you weren't locked down to the single "computer". As I upgrade every few years, I've always purchased retail versions since OEM can't be used on a new computer (ie. motherboard/cpu upgrade).

This "free" version of Windows 10 seems to follow OEM licensing so I'm going to have to buy one anyway the next upgrade. I suppose I can't really complain, they haven't communicated it very well though.

Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:34 pm
by Chrisax
Actually, the EULA for Windows 10 allows the transfer to a new computer IF you upgraded from a retail version ("Stand-alone software") and IF you uninstalled Windows 10 on the old computer. How to proceed is not totally clear though. It probably requires to contact Microsoft.

If you upgraded from an OEM version; you're tied to the original computer which can nevertheless be highly modified. It seems that only changing the MB poses a problem. Still, I heard many people say that when they had to replace an out-of-order MB, they contacted MS and usually were able to have their Windows activated. (Not 100% sure on that though, and it was in the past.) I would suppose that it has to be the same MB model ? Just my guess here. (If it's done by the manufacturer of the PC, I assume the manufacturer takes care of this.)


This is what the Windows EULA says on this:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Useterm ... nglish.htm
4. Transfer. The provisions of this section do not apply if you acquired the software as a consumer in Germany or in any of the countries listed on this site (aka.ms/transfer), in which case any transfer of the software to a third party, and the right to use it, must comply with applicable law.

a. Software preinstalled on device. If you acquired the software preinstalled on a device (and also if you upgraded from software preinstalled on a device), you may transfer the license to use the software directly to another user, only with the licensed device. The transfer must include the software and, if provided with the device, an authentic Windows label including the product key. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.

b. Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.
So it would seem that Windows 10 "inherits" the license rights of the software it replaces.


Still, poor communication.


There is a discussion herre too, leading apparently to the same conclusions.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/win ... 8237655029

Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:28 am
by Malosar
ok great, thanks for that info. It makes sense I guess, everything about this Windows 10 upgrade seems to be inheriting whatever it comes from.

Now I'm waiting on Silicondust to finish their new PVR so I can dump Windows 7 throughout the house and have TV back on all devices with network recording on my NAS.

Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:32 pm
by Chrisax
Update and confirmation (closing to the deadline for free upgrades too Windows 10);



Does my Retail copy of Windows become an OEM copy (Locked to the hardware it was upgraded on) after the upgrade?

* UPDATE As of the license terms released with build 10240, an original OEM copy upgrades to what is, in effect, still an OEM copy.
An original Retail copy upgrades to what is, in effect a retail, transferable copy. Microsoft has done away with terms like "OEM" in the license, and now use terms like "If you originally acquired the software preinstalled on the device" and "If you acquired the software from a retailer". And, in the license they explicitly say that an upgraded retail license is still a transferable retail license.

In no situation does your original Windows 7/8/8.1 license get converted to an OEM license.

To clarify, in order to transfer your copy of Windows 10 to a new PC, assuming you have a retail license of Windows 7/8.x, you must first install Windows 7/8.x on the new PC, then perform a new upgrade on that PC. If this happens after the 1 year upgrade period is over, the Activation servers will know that your old license has already been upgraded and re-activate the new upgrade

http://www.tenforums.com/general-suppor ... grade.html

Re: Windows 10: the Privacy settings you MUST know

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by Kevin Ball
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