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[stokken]

Seems like my amazon account got hacked , its been posting positive reviews on some items ....
Good thing i never save my credit card on there

[Chrisax]

Seems like my amazon account got hacked , its been posting positive reviews on some items ....
Good thing i never save my credit card on there

Alert Amazon right now. they are usually responsive about that.

If you don't have anything special about this account (like Amazon Prime), you can also just delete it and open another? But I'd say contact them.

[stokken]

i have contacted them also canged pw for a harder

ye i have prime video

now to motherboard , the one i was looking out is sold out and other sellers want 70€ more
so i need to find a other one thats resonble price range .
They dont seem to have many others below 200€ with B550

[stokken]

Did some changes
After reading some bench tests the AMD Ryzen 5 3600X vs AMD Ryzen 7 3700X dont have more then a few % diffrence in the test , Not enough for me to use 105€ more on

so confused atm

[stokken]

well im confused with the Mhz on motherboard

atm im at

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Elite

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro - Kit de Memoria Entusiasta 32 GB 3000Mhz or 3200

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

2 x Crucial CT500MX500SSD4 MX500 500 GB (M.2 2280, 3D NAND, SATA)

the thing with mb it says

2400 MHz, 2133 MHz, 2667 MHz, 2933 MHz, 3300 MHz (O.C.), 3400 MHz (O.C.), 3333 MHz (O.C.), 3466 MHz (O.C.), 3733 MHz (O.C.), 3600 MHz (O.C.), 3800 MHz (O.C.), 3866 MHz (O.C.), 4000 MHz (O.C.), 3200 MHz

that were confusion starts , so long since did own build now

[LamaLeif]

What are you going to use the pc for Stokken?

I upgraded my computer last fall and have been satisfied with the performance compared to price.

I chose AMD Ryzen 5 3600 due to the performance and price, despite the fact Intel will get you a little bit more fps in games.
I use my computer for a lot of things, games, music, youtube, piano VST, so I may have several tabs and programs open at once. I decided to go with R5 3600 due to the overall better performance, especially when it comes to multitasking, the fact the cpu runs cooler is also very good because I want a quiet pc.

The only mistake I made was underestimating my SSD needs, so I ended up going with a MB with only one M.2 slot. If i was to do it again I would choose a B450 MB with 2x M.2 slots, all the other stuff I concluded would be unnecessary turned out to in fact be.. unnecessary.

AMD R5 3600 (3600X isn't worth the extra cost imo)
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX (I needed one more M.2 slot)
Corsair Vengeance LPX 3600mhz 2x8GB (I correctly concluded I wouldn't have any need for 32gb of ram)
GeForce GTX 2070 Super
BeQuiet! Dark Power Pro 11 850W (This is the one place I didn't want to skimp out, this is a very quiet high quality PSU and since I utilize only around 50% of the power it runs even more quiet)
Fractal Design Define R5 case (a sound dampened case, with some added dampening by my self)

The cpu cooling is a very old Noctua NH-D14 that I simply got a cheap mounting kit for the AM4 socket, as well as various sizes of very quiet noctua case fans.

[stokken]

Well mostly i play AO but since i use several accounts at once it gets laggy (7 accounts)
I alsom play some more moderen games where i get alot of lag on current setup

well i read on mb what ram supported so will swap to 3200 mhz same type

i would actually like a mb with wifi on it , so dont have to buy a wifi card.

Maybe go for a b450 and save some money

[LamaLeif]

The thing to keep in mind if buying AMD, is that you should get the fastest ram available within your budget. The 3rd gen Ryzen likes fast ram, more so than other cpus.

These are a couple examples of me running 3 and 6 clients, looks to me like graphics card maxes out before cpu. Though I was sitting around in OA/ICC and not seeing combat.

[stokken]

For some odd reason your post needs approvel ...

I dont run full screen on ao clients , all are windowed and low settings to avoid lag

Well i am trying to keep it all under 800€ budget

ASUS DUAL-GTX1650-O4G - Tarjeta gráfica (4 GB GDDR5, OC 1755 MHz, 128 bit, PCIE 3.0 i bought in August 2019 so not upgrading it

atm what i have selected are

Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro - Kit de Memoria Entusiasta 32 GB (2 x 16 GB), DDR4, 3200 MHz, C16, XMP 2.0 179€

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS Elite 230€

Crucial CT500MX500SSD4 MX500 - Disco duro sólido interno SSD de 500 GB (M.2 2280, 3D NAND, SATA) x2 157€

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X - Procesador con ventilador Wraith Spire 218€

so total is 784€ and under the budget of 800€ , unless i find something really nice i might go abit over

[LamaLeif]

Yea I noticed needing approval, strange, I never needed that before.

You should really save yourself the money and go for the 3600 instead of the 3600X, it definitely isn't worth the money. You will not be able to notice any significant difference between them, you may see a 5fps difference in modern games running at 150fps. I would absolutely look into getting faster ram instead of picking the X over non-X.

With Ryzen Master (or through bios) you can enable Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO), which is the AMD software for intelligent overlocking. It will squeeze the most out of the cpu, and with fast ram it will have a decent impact.

I will also suggest not getting a m.2 sata ssd, m.2 nvme is really the way to go as they are faster.

[stokken]

Well did a change in it with 2 x 512gb for Sabrent 512GB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD

Changed the cpu to a 3600

I want to keep the motherboard

with that change im at 775€

the mb you use says "The four RAM slots support up to 64 GB DDR4-RAM with a clock frequency of up to 2.933 MHz and can be clocked up to 3.466 MHz"

[LamaLeif]

The mb I have supports up to 4133mhz, so thats definitely not accurate.

[stokken]

Where i read it

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-b450 ... 3t-ms.html

RAM:
4x DDR4 (max. 2.933 MHz, 3.466 via OC)
Dual-Channel
max. 64 GB

Edit :
I checked on MSI so showed 2667/2800/2933/3000/3066/3200/3466/3600/3733/3866/4000/4133 by A-XMP OC mode

Are there 2 models of the same motherboard ? Names comes up with 1 with max 64mb a other shows 128mb ?

[LamaLeif]

It probably had a bios update to add compatibility with higher ram speeds.

[Chrisax]

Stokken, if you can wait like three more days, i'll finally be able to say something intelligent here (aside the water cooling).

Yes, I know that sounds ridiculous but my RL is at the moment.