That said, someone got an idea of how to interpret the thing torhead calls "difficulty"? The four colored numbers.
I'm compiling info form various sources and in-game atm but I don't understand that one atm.
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I'm a critter
That said, someone got an idea of how to interpret the thing torhead calls "difficulty"? The four colored numbers.
I'm compiling info form various sources and in-game atm but I don't understand that one atm.
That said, someone got an idea of how to interpret the thing torhead calls "difficulty"? The four colored numbers.
I'm compiling info form various sources and in-game atm but I don't understand that one atm.
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Here is a guess:Chrisax wrote: That said, someone got an idea of how to interpret the thing torhead calls "difficulty"? The four colored numbers.
You advance your skill by sending your companion on missions. When you look at the available missions the name of each is color coded as to its difficulty (red, yellow, green, grey). A red mission yields more XP for you than a yellow, yellow more than green, and a grey one gives no XP).
I believe that the color coding on Torhead indicates at what level a mission will still grant you XP.
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yupBredin wrote:I believe that the color coding on Torhead indicates at what level a mission will still grant you XP.Chrisax wrote: That said, someone got an idea of how to interpret the thing torhead calls "difficulty"? The four colored numbers.
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OK, thanks Bredin. 
I thought it was something like that but I was not sure at all. So the levels are probably the "border" levels.
Back to work on that!
I thought it was something like that but I was not sure at all. So the levels are probably the "border" levels.Back to work on that!
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Bleh uh that' can't be levels because we have numbers way above 50, lie "1 35 65 85" for the first mission and "340 375 405 425" for the last one.
So I assume (and maybe it's what you wanted to say) that those numbers are the skills levels at which a mission becomes red (orange) - yellow - green - grey. Not sure how interesting this information is BTW, as you get missions progressively as your skills increases.
So I assume (and maybe it's what you wanted to say) that those numbers are the skills levels at which a mission becomes red (orange) - yellow - green - grey. Not sure how interesting this information is BTW, as you get missions progressively as your skills increases.
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yup Chrisax, that's what i was trying to say. You wouldn't know it from my post, but English is my native language! 
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Progressing fast 
. I'll put an early beta online soon hopefully.
. I'll put an early beta online soon hopefully.Re: Mission discoveries and mats
Beta most likely available tomorrow late or Thursday.
Currently, the core works.
Currently, the core works.
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At this point, we don't have technical obstacles but it appears that current info available on missions is incomplete or sometimes wrong, even Torhead .
I'm verifying the best I can but something would be a wonderful help really: if you could all either note down what a mission gave you or make screenshots of the mission return window showing the info pop-ups of the items.
I need also to figure if rewards are randomized or not and up to what degree.
I'm verifying the best I can but something would be a wonderful help really: if you could all either note down what a mission gave you or make screenshots of the mission return window showing the info pop-ups of the items.
I need also to figure if rewards are randomized or not and up to what degree.
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I'll give you an example (only) of partially inaccurate information, using Torhead for this one.
Based on them, the mission "Far From Home" (557th mission on the list) gives:
- Alien Artifact Fragment
- Hypertech Artifact Fragment
But, actually, this mission gives:
- Green Lucent Crystal
- Red Lucent Crystal
- Blue Lucent Crystal
(maybe all those are a random variation on "grade 5 color crystals")
and
- Phond Crystal which is a grade 5 power crystal
Maybe all the crystals are even a variation on a random grade 5 crystal roll but at least this means grade 5 crystals drop.
My guess ATM would nevertheless be that the roll pattern is something like
- Alien Artifact Fragment - sure, quantity random (as usual)
- Hypertech Artifact Fragment - sure, quantity random (as usual)
- Grade 5 color crystals - quantity and choice random
- Grade 5 power crystal - quantity and choice random
Now does that mean the crystal quantities could be zero ? Doubtful but hard to know with one record.
Does that mean I had a mission that in a way or another "critted" ?! No clue if there is such a mechanism in this very case and how to check if this happened or not. Only results from more people can help.
My feeling now is that the database should contain:
- in one field the mission reward as it appears in the missions choice window (e.g. "Bountiful Yield: ...something..."), for reference and because it's something you need to search for sometimes
- in other fields what actually drops (or may drop based on records); in some cases, it won't be anything else but the same text as above. i.e. if the text is "Moderate Yield: Class 6 Lockboxes", the loot (except if bugged) is necessarily Class 6 Lockboxes (usually one, saw sometimes two, in this case one being a cash-only box and the other an item box)
With the ability to search for one or the other aspect.
Actually the ONLY small "obstacle" now for the making of the system is to gather more information.
BUT I already fed it with (I guess) all the information available from various sources (and ofc checked one vs others)
And here I need contributions.
Nevertheless, I can upload a beta sometimes today.
The final goal is to have a tool which is very fast and straightforward to use. And with a very light look (think of Google in general). Nothing should be farther than two clicks or three at max (except if you want on purpose to do something more complicated).
Click to select - click to search - boom, your answer, full and clear. (+ advanced possibilities of course if you want.)
No need to search for an item (and remembering the name precisely sometimes), then once you found it to go to another option to see a mission, etc.
No ads, no commercials, no tracking cookies, no pop-up window, no registration for better features, nothing. (Possibly "exchange" links only, if light.)
Based on them, the mission "Far From Home" (557th mission on the list) gives:
- Alien Artifact Fragment
- Hypertech Artifact Fragment
But, actually, this mission gives:
- Green Lucent Crystal
- Red Lucent Crystal
- Blue Lucent Crystal
(maybe all those are a random variation on "grade 5 color crystals")
and
- Phond Crystal which is a grade 5 power crystal
Maybe all the crystals are even a variation on a random grade 5 crystal roll but at least this means grade 5 crystals drop.
My guess ATM would nevertheless be that the roll pattern is something like
- Alien Artifact Fragment - sure, quantity random (as usual)
- Hypertech Artifact Fragment - sure, quantity random (as usual)
- Grade 5 color crystals - quantity and choice random
- Grade 5 power crystal - quantity and choice random
Now does that mean the crystal quantities could be zero ? Doubtful but hard to know with one record.
Does that mean I had a mission that in a way or another "critted" ?! No clue if there is such a mechanism in this very case and how to check if this happened or not. Only results from more people can help.
My feeling now is that the database should contain:
- in one field the mission reward as it appears in the missions choice window (e.g. "Bountiful Yield: ...something..."), for reference and because it's something you need to search for sometimes
- in other fields what actually drops (or may drop based on records); in some cases, it won't be anything else but the same text as above. i.e. if the text is "Moderate Yield: Class 6 Lockboxes", the loot (except if bugged) is necessarily Class 6 Lockboxes (usually one, saw sometimes two, in this case one being a cash-only box and the other an item box)
With the ability to search for one or the other aspect.
Actually the ONLY small "obstacle" now for the making of the system is to gather more information.
BUT I already fed it with (I guess) all the information available from various sources (and ofc checked one vs others)
And here I need contributions.
Nevertheless, I can upload a beta sometimes today.
The final goal is to have a tool which is very fast and straightforward to use. And with a very light look (think of Google in general). Nothing should be farther than two clicks or three at max (except if you want on purpose to do something more complicated).
Click to select - click to search - boom, your answer, full and clear. (+ advanced possibilities of course if you want.)
No need to search for an item (and remembering the name precisely sometimes), then once you found it to go to another option to see a mission, etc.
No ads, no commercials, no tracking cookies, no pop-up window, no registration for better features, nothing. (Possibly "exchange" links only, if light.)
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Gah ?Not sure I understood totally what it means in practice. (Yes, I understand "several rolls".)
But if randomization was very high then we wouldn't be able to say that an item drops somewhere. (Except a very general statement like "grade 3 power crystals" and, even, ONLY for the ones that ALWAYS drop, if there is a bonus somewhere...)
In the case I mentioned, should we add the crystals in a database then? They did drop... but is it rare? Exceptionally rare? Of is it just no one else noted it down so far?...
As Bioware is not going to tell anyone, we can only note what we get when doing missions, and see how it looks. Considering the number of missions everyone rolls per day, we could have decent results quite fast if everyone or most want to contribute.
I said
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do we have a lisr of schems that are found in missions? So far i have found a few, do we need to get a list or is it probably too random and low chance to worry?
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I don't know Rojo, and that's why I need help. I can't check all missions either at all levels, so need help there too.
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On the screenshots, the name of the companion is visible as "X completed....". It's not on the one I posted because of the info popup on the first item, but it is on the next screenshot where my mouse is over the second reward.
Now, I just have to know how each companion was. Nadia is top, at 10K
, all others were pretty low, like 2K but I boosted Tharan Cedrax over the last week and he is now around 8.5K.
That said, do I see nay influence on the mission?
It seems that affection makes a companion work faster. But it's at best like 10ish % at 10K affection. (Nadia at 10K can do Treasure Hunting missions faster than Zenith who has a genuine 10% efficiency advantage on Treasure Hunting but was not even at 2K affection when I compared.)
Does a companion with high affection "crit" more (i.e. has a better random chance to get a bonus in loot or a superior item than expected in crafting.)?
I would tend to say yes BUT really it looks little, very little, and it seems it's mostly about crafting.
So, to answer the real question:
1) I don't think that reports will be highly affected by affection so we can proceed
2) We can nevertheless note (roughly) the affection level, easy to compare later
3) Yes you're over-thinking a bit but it's really good to see reactions here
And now, any comment / reaction / something on the beta ?! Feeling lonely?. 
Now, I just have to know how each companion was. Nadia is top, at 10K
, all others were pretty low, like 2K but I boosted Tharan Cedrax over the last week and he is now around 8.5K.That said, do I see nay influence on the mission?
It seems that affection makes a companion work faster. But it's at best like 10ish % at 10K affection. (Nadia at 10K can do Treasure Hunting missions faster than Zenith who has a genuine 10% efficiency advantage on Treasure Hunting but was not even at 2K affection when I compared.)
Does a companion with high affection "crit" more (i.e. has a better random chance to get a bonus in loot or a superior item than expected in crafting.)?
I would tend to say yes BUT really it looks little, very little, and it seems it's mostly about crafting.
So, to answer the real question:
1) I don't think that reports will be highly affected by affection so we can proceed
2) We can nevertheless note (roughly) the affection level, easy to compare later
3) Yes you're over-thinking a bit but it's really good to see reactions here
And now, any comment / reaction / something on the beta ?! Feeling lonely?.
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Here are the results of some missions. I will add to this over time until we have enough info.
Mission Results
Round 2, this time noting the companion
Mission Results
Round 2, this time noting the companion
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