AP HELP & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots, systems,Web,...)

[iannis]

So information still valid? I want to make small donation too.

[Chrisax]

Thank you Iannis Yes it is.

It will likely have to change soon, due to how Paypal handles accounts in a more complicated way now.

[iannis]

done

[Chrisax]

And received. Thanks a lot Iannis It helps, and morally too. A lot.

[iannis]

Your welcome

[Mophro]

Attention all fellow freedom fighters and digital renegades!

Our bots in Anarchy Online need your help to keep the cybernetic revolution alive! Even a small donation can make a huge difference. Join us in supporting our cause by contributing today. Thanks for being the lifeblood of our virtual escapades!

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Our organization's chat bots, servers, websites, things we host for the Community, and forums are the backbone of our operations in Anarchy Online. These digital guardians tirelessly uphold our community, ensuring smooth communication, seamless gameplay, and a vibrant online space for all members. However, maintaining these essential tools comes with its costs. Your generous donations will directly support the upkeep of these vital components, keeping our virtual realm thriving and our adventures unbounded. Join us in safeguarding our digital domain and be a part of the revolution!
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Yours in game and chaos,
Mophro

[Chrisax]

Thank you for this little "bump", Mop. It should mean a lot to all of us and it does mean a lot to me.

There is a lot indeed running behind AP, and AP does a lot behind the scene.

Just happens that 2024 got a very tough start. I didn't want to bother anyone.

[Reyz]

chipped in with 50€

[Chrisax]

Thank you very much
Mop
Reyz
Andr*** (not sure who you are) Edit: Sparc

[Scykeep]

how much do these upkeeps cost annually?

I'm asking about everything altogether, from bots to forums.

[Chrisax]

how much do these upkeeps cost annually?

I'm asking about everything altogether, from bots to forums.

Well, then, "all" means all the stuff for AP privately or that AP benefits from (including by contributing in keeping AO alive, or improving the standing and image of AP). Click "show" for a short list:

- Servers for bots (we host more than 70 bots making AO better, not just orgs or relay bots ), web, and various systems like the PoRK mirror for all bots, history systems including the auno history (650 000 XML files that, I swear, one day, we'll turn into another database...) and "Floaty" the visual database of geometry errors for AO Devs that I created when Lindelu was the Game Director, etc.
- Additional technical stuff like additional IP addresses required to make everything work, etc
- The domains names for AP (athenpaladins.org and athenpaladins.com), for Alliance, and others required to make some things work but not public like aoin******db.com

One of the main suppliers being https://www.scaleway.com/en/ (not for their Cloud or AI, or supercomputer, of course)

The FULL total is ATM 1 084 euros (1,172 USD) per year, the first half-year being where most annual payments are due.

[Chrisax]

Just a note: this has been built over the last 20 years so it's a bit of an "oil refinery" look now regarding its complexity. With recent new options / offers, I should be able to lower somewhat the costs at some point in the future but that change will literally take like three months of work. A time I can't afford until the end of 2024 likely. And during the time required to do all the work, both new systems and old ones will be up, so there will be additional costs for new servers / services while legacy costs will still be running. So, yes, it will get worse before it gets better.

[stokken]

Donated 20€

[Scykeep]

how much would the cost be cut if we... lets say ditch the alliance stuff?

Hypothetically speaking ofc!

[Chrisax]

Thanks Stokken

And thx Mackie

how much would the cost be cut if we... lets say ditch the alliance stuff?

Hypothetically speaking ofc!

Everything is more or less intertwined, so it's not really a sensible way to calculate things. For example, when you host dozens and dozens of bots, it's not like 5ish specific bots that make a server more or less expensive. Nevertheless, just to get an arbitrary order of magnitude, 10% to 15%. Which makes s42 raids possible just for example too, or contributes to keep AO alive.