alpha symbs

[Mrfreeman]

ok so i copied all the stats between infantry and support for this now and am trying to figure out which way i wanna go. These are only the DIFFERENCES between the 2. All others stats are the same between the 2.

INFANTRY                          SUPPORT
Location: Head 		        Location: Head 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Bow Spc Att 144			Elec. Engi 87
Mech. Engi 144			Intelligence 72
Melee Ener. 144			Max Nano 574
Psychology 144			NanoC. Init. 144
Weapon Smt 87			Nano Pool 87
			        Psychic 72
			        Quantum FT 144
			        Ranged. Init. 87
			        Trap Disarm. 58


Location: Chest 		Location: Chest 
Modifier:			Modifier:
2h Blunt 58			Max Nano 230
Body Dev. 144			NanoC. Init. 58
Dimach 144			Decreased Nano-Interrupt Modifier % 7
Disease AC 287			Nano Pool 144
Strength 30			Psychic 43
			        Sense 72
			
			
Location: Ears 			Location: Ears 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Concealment 87			Intelligence 30
Psychology 87			% Add. Nano Cost -5
			
			
Location: Feet 			Location: Feet 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Evade-ClsC 144			HealDelta 43
Melee. Init. 144		NanoDelta 30
Add All Off 16			RangeInc. Weapon 9
ShieldChemicalAC 14			
ShieldColdAC 14			
ShieldMeleeAC 14			
ShieldPoisonAC 14			
Sneak Atck 144			
RangeInc. Weapon 9			
			
			
Location: LeftArm 	        Location: LeftArm 
Modifier:			Modifier:
2h Blunt 87			% Add. Nano Cost -3
2h Edged 87			RangeInc. NF 16
Brawling 144			
Add All Off 37			
Piercing 87			
			
			
Location: LeftHand 	        Location: LeftHand 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Fast Attack 144			First Aid 58
Ranged Ener 58			Decreased Nano-Interrupt Modifier % 9
ShieldChemicalAC 22		RangeInc. NF 9
ShieldColdAC 22			SkillLockModifier -7
ShieldEnergyAC 14		Trap Disarm. 87
ShieldFireAC 14			Resist Nano: Grand Theft Humidity
ShieldMeleeAC 22			
ShieldPoisonAC 22			
ShieldProjectileAC 14			
ShieldRadiationAC 14			
			
			
Location: LeftWrist 		Location: LeftWrist 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Add. Chem. Dam. 12		Nano Resist 58
Add. Energy Dam. 12		Resist Nano: Grand Theft Humidity
Add. Fire Dam. 12			
Add. Melee Dam. 12			
Melee Ener. 87			
Mult. Melee 144			
Add. Poison Dam. 12			
Add. Proj. Dam. 12			
Add. Rad. Dam. 12			
Rifle 58			
			
			
Location: Eyes 			Location: Eyes 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Aimed Shot 144			Bow 58
Mult. Melee 87			Chemistry 87
Psychology 58			Concealment 58
Sharp Obj 58			Intelligence 43
Sneak Atck 58			Multi Ranged 58
Weapon Smt 58			NanoC. Init. 87
			        Pharma Tech 87
			        Pistol 58
			
			
Location: RightArm 		Location: RightArm 
Modifier:			Modifier:
1h Blunt 144			Fling Shot 144
1h Edged 144			NanoDelta 43
2h Blunt 144			RangeInc. NF 7
2h Edged 144			Radiation AC 287
Brawling 87			
Fast Attack 58			
Heavy Weapons 144			
Add All Off 22			
Piercing 144			
Radiation AC 287			
Riposte 58			
RangeInc. Weapon 7			
			
			
Location: RightHand 		Location: RightHand 
Modifier:			Modifier:
1h Blunt 58			Burst 58
1h Edged 58			Fling Shot 87
Bow Spc Att 87			Pharma Tech 58
Add. Chem. Dam. 20		Pistol 87
Fast Attack 87			Trap Disarm. 144
Add. Fire Dam. 20			
Heavy Weapons 58			
Add. Melee Dam. 20			
Add. Poison Dam. 20			
Sharp Obj 87			
Weapon Smt 144			
			
			
Location: RightWrist 		Location: RightWrist 
Modifier:			Modifier:
1h Blunt 87			Burst 87
1h Edged 87			Multi Ranged 87
Bow Spc Att 58			NanoDelta 72
Add. Fire Dam. 7		Pistol 144
Add. Melee Dam. 7		Resist Nano: Grand Theft Humidity
Melee Ener. 58			
Mult. Melee 58			
Riposte 144			
Sharp Obj 144			
Sneak Atck 87			
			
			
Location: Legs 			Location: Legs 
Modifier:			Modifier:
Body Dev. 58			Agility 72
Dodge-Rng 144			Decreased Nano-Interrupt Modifier % 16
Duck-Exp 144			SkillLockModifier -14
HealDelta 30			
Melee. Init. 87			
			
			
Location: Waist 		Location: Waist 
Modifier:			Modifier:
2h Edged 58			Agility 30
Body Dev. 87			Max Nano 345
Brawling 58			% Add. Nano Cost -9
Dimach 58			Nano Pool 58
Melee. Init. 58			
Piercing 58

Some are obvious, and others can really go either way. Any ideas would be helpful.

[Mrfreeman]

atm I think:

support head
infantry chest (debating support)
support ears
infantry feet (support HD/ND and range inc?)
infantry Left Arm
infantry Left Hand (support for skill lock and resist?)
infantry Left Wrist - for the MM (support for nr and resist? if i can do without the MM)
infantry eyes
infantry Right Arm
infantry Right Hand
infantry Right Wrist (support for ND and resist? if i can do without the MM)
infantry legs
infantry waist (support for agility and nano and cost? over dimach, brawling and body dev)

[Mrfreeman]

no one has some suggestions?

[Mrfreeman]

I like holding conversations with myself, tis so fun!

yes Free that looks cool! but are you going with support or infantry in those spots?

[noobas]

support waist is a nice option.

Sorry, I didn't see this thread freeman

I was even looking at Right arm for ND, but loss of brawl and 22 AAO is kinda annoying.

Brawl is one of those wierd attacks though, becuase youre always goign to have the 20% chance of stun regardless of it hitting or not, but the people you really want it to land on it won't. advy, MA, fixer.

for pvm, it wouldn't matter if you lost 22 AAO and 87 brawl. it would hurt you if you used a spear of forbidden cermonies though, since 144 piercing would be hard to make up.

the 43 ND that came with that loss would add substantially to your nano pool.
don't forget in waist you lose some evades. support doesn't have evades in waist (unless my memory is betraying me)

9% cost is a lot though, and would be really useful in keeping the pool up.

does cost affect LE attacks? check it out for me and post your results?

[Mrfreeman]

I dont have the IP to do a SA weapon so the SoFC isnt a concern for me atm, unless I redo my IP and dont do body dev and such. Also since i use fire fists and not anvil the +7 would add to mine

the support waist, the new alpha one shares the same stats as the alpha infantry except for the difference that i posted in this thread, so ithe full support waist is:

Location: Waist
Modifier:
Adventuring 87
Agility 30
Bio Metamor 58
Chemical AC 717
Cold AC 717
Dodge-Rng 58
Duck-Exp 87
Energy AC 287
Evade-ClsC 58
Fire AC 717
Max Health 345
Max Nano 345
Melee/ma AC 432
% Add. Nano Cost -9
Nano Pool 58
Imp/Proj AC 287
Radiation AC 717
Stamina 30

[noobas]

thats pretty nice that the alpha support symbs have evades...

evades classes are getting the screw again :/

when I fight a soldier, and I miss him, I start wondering what in hell is going on.

I think you should use support waist. It'll make chain healing a lot easier. But, it sort of depends on who you're planning on fighting.

I'm curious about what your HD is with BD maxed?

[Mrfreeman]

188 with matrix of Ka every 2 sec or whatever

[noobas]

That is a lot higher than mine.

I think I'm at about 163 with 50 from matrix.

Are you going to use waist symb? HOw do you make a support alpha waist?

[Mrfreeman]

Im still debating on the waist, was wanting input as to what ppl though of the options to make a alpha waist jsut need a intel support waist and a xan waist support and combine, just like every other one.

[noobas]

oh.

I haven't made any of the new symbs yet. Sounds easy, except for finding intel symbs

[Mrfreeman]

i have a full set of infantry, most i am wearing. I use to have close to a full set of support but i sold a bit ago, and was before they were expensive :/