AP HELP & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots, systems,Web,...)

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Chrisax
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Re: AP HELP FUND & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots and Website too)

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It matters Flux. :wink: Let me explain just a bit.

About hosting on someone else's PC: last year, the power supply of our first server went down after two years of non-stop working. It was diagnosed and replaced in 43 minutes and the server restarted by a technician. Who can guarantee that? What good will person can monitor, repair and restart a PC 24/24 7/7 365/365 in 4 hours max (assuming of course the terms of our contract are respected but we have to assume they will be)? Also we do not depend on any private home connection to an ISP that may fail or be interrupted. In most situations, our traffic will simply be rerouted if something bad happens somewhere. And we do not depend on what someone is doing at home either (like downloading the last ISO of Ubuntou which is like 2GB IIRC or a ***** copy of a movie or of Autocad with all add-ons :roll: )

In more than 4 years, the full list of our troubles is the 43 minutes downtime I mentioned, and some hours of "lag" due to the switch just after our group of servers that was behaving bad intermittently (hence difficult to diagnose). We are at something like 99.97% uptime over 4 years.
(Of course, now that I said that, Murphy's law implies we'll experience a major failure... [-o< )

Now, you can ask if it is worth the work/investment/pain/whatever for a community of gamers. It's a good question to which I have no rational answer. I'm just proud we can deliver quality to AP members.

Your other point is that everything anyhow depends on the person who pays the bills. I'm not comfortable to talk about bills. I'll just mention that, in most situations, if something bad happened, AP would have enough time to either keep on with the current system or find other solutions.

Last but no least, all our tech stuff should allow us to build replacement solutions for aomainframe and more in the future. We've been working hard on that and it would be already done if days had 48 hours or if we could make time slow down. :)
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Re: AP HELP FUND & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots and Website too)

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Given how many orgs have had their "bot owner" quit the game ... leaving the org with no people with a clue how to run the bot OR even if they had a clue ... without the ability to leave one up 24*7*52*(however many more years AO is online) ... it definitely matters.

Chris might be a BIT overboard compared to most orgs on the amount of capacity we have, but we also host more bots than most other orgs. If we only needed a couple of org bots we could put it on a $5/month cheapo account. But with all of the services (including non-bot stuff) that we consume as one of AO's largest orgs ... well ... yeah. It matters ;)
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Re: AP HELP FUND & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots and Website too)

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getting an error 404 on main link there chris.
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Re: AP HELP FUND & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots and Website too)

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noobas wrote:getting an error 404 on main link there chris.
Fixed, it was "html" instead of "htm". Has been like that for a very long time. Hehe, was not noticed a lot.
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Been a while since this post was bumped. So BUMP :).
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Bump for justice! :)
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bump,

Xmas time soon..

Just saying
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This is just a BUMP in the night.
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Bump for this.

Just checked with wife, we're looking for 50$ /week for our daughter to go to childcare so I can't afford to give atm.
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Re: AP HELP FUND & DONATIONS (SERVERS for Bots and Website too)

Post by Keepbrave »

Bump as well as a question.

Noticed the server costs and was wondering if I can help with this in some way.
Would a officer/general be willing to discuss this with me?

I have my own webserver with unlimited space/bandwidth so am willing to help where I can. It is strictly a webserver so won't be able to host bots but as I have been doing this for years I am wondering if there is a way I can help cut costs etc.

Let me know if interested either in game (When I am around) or send me a PM here.
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Thanks for the offer, KeepBrave, but I believe Chris is still keeping it in the Bat Cave next to his Bat Suit. That way if it goes down, our Super Friends can support it 24/7/365. (I'm not totally sure bout that tho. Just basing it off thread history)

I am sure, however, that any amount donated is appreciated. In fact, thanks for the reminder.

edit/p.s. - I'll donate $20 more if Bredin says "Hi eb. I'm Bredin. Will you be my valentine?" to every team he joins for the next two weeks.
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Just spotted this thread. Might be able to help here.

I work for a telecoms company and have access to a Datacenter for co-location. The possibility of hosting these bots at 0 cost on kit there is quite high. I could even supply the higher ups with credentials to log into it and add certain people to the access list for remote hands for reboots etc?

The Data center is located in an underground decommissioned Nuclear bunker in the UK. Currently has 2x 10gbit up/down circuits for resilience and if there is a power outage the building runs on a massive Cummins diesel generator. with reservoirs capable of running all equipment for 2 weeks without refilling :D.

Check it out here;

http://www.gcicom.net/services/data-cen ... unker.html

If you guys are interested would just need the system specs and bandwidth required (I'm certain this wouldn't be over the top). And I could spin up a virtual machine quite easily.

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Thanks to Cxxxx@gmx.de for donation in January and sorry I saw it only yesterday. I obviously skipped a time frame.


Note that the way Paypal works, which has been changed many times since I created the donation" pages, doesn't allow to display automatically donations now, if any, or balance. I'll chnage that someday.
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Just made a small contribution ($20) to server fund; least I can do for the great assistance AP has been for my recent AO return.

Also thread bump!!
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Thanks a lot Yegga

Unique Transaction ID #96Y558......4122F received


Side note: due to current changes in how Paypal works now, I will likely have to make a new account for AP.
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