new pc suggestions

[Chrisax]

Hum...

I just check with the new engine in 1980x1024, most options high.

RAM used in a classic store; 280MB

RAM in OA: 640MB

RAM in EFP: 1 200MB (yes, 1.2GB)

RAM in SL: 1300ish MB (1.3GB)

And that's not with 40 players around.

Each client running will use the same thing as the first client.

So running 7 clients means possibly more than 9GB ONLY for AO (add all your other running software and the system itself).

Or it will spap to disk and slow down.


Regarding CPU usage I was at 4.7% per AO client on an Intel i7-2600K (yes quite old now). I will have to compare it with new CPU to see what AO will use, roughly.

[Chrisax]

The i5-7600K you posted has a Passmark (a quite reliable general purpose CPU benchmark) benchmark of 9151
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... Hz&id=2919

My own i7-2600K (years old now) i used at 4.7ish % by a new engine AO client and has a benchmark of 8457
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cp ... GHz&id=868

So, as a rule of the thumb based on bechmarks comparison, let's say that each AO new client you run will take around 4.4% of CPU.

So for each new engine client:
4.4% of CPU i5-7600K
up to 1.3GB of RAM

[stokken]

I use old clint as it more reliable , running full screen wont work as there sometimes i need to swap to a other toon fast.
All my clints are run a lowest settings to get less lag. Forgot what resolution i have on them as im not at home

[Chrisax]

OK, so do the following (I can't do it; I don't have an old client installed ATM):

• Run AO old client
  
  Click CTRL ALT DEL and you'll get the Windows Task Manager
  
  In the TAB "Processes", you'll see programs running and AO will have an AO icon and a name like "Client 32 bits".
  
  Check what memory is allocated to each client
  
  Check how much CPU % is allocated to each client
  
  Do that in a small and large zone

And tell us the results.

[stokken]

I will have to do it when im back home in norway

[stokken]

well i need some suggestions on webshopto get some parts from and ships to spain
gonna need
Case
Cooling paste
Screws , i left all at home :/
Fans
Maybe some extra cooling for gpu

[Chrisax]

But, to be able to provide some advice, what is the rest if your equipment now? This thread is 3 years old for a good part. And the budget?

[stokken]

Have the same parts still

[Chrisax]

So you have that

ok so i dont get confused

cabinet
Cooler Master Silencio 352 Mini Tower

MB
ASUS H81I-PLUS, Socket-1150

Intel Core i5-4460

psu
Corsair CX 600M, 600W PSU

gpu
ASUS GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB PhysX CUDA

Ram
Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Sport 16GB KIT

BUT with a graphic card changes this year to
ASUS GeForce GTX 750Ti 2GB PhysX CUDA


Damn, you don't have many online shops in Norway and no Amazon. Or are you in Spain already?

I don't know where to look in Norway. Have you considered ordering directly in Spain (they have Amazon) and being delivered there?

Anyhow I'm looking for items now for you. I have ideas about cases already.

[Chrisax]

For a quite inexpensive but well made case you could look at a Bitfenix Neos or Nova: they are about the same prices in general, and the main differences are the mesh front panel for the Neos, allowing a somewhat better cooling if you want to add one or two fans on the front (and more color options for the front panel). Both cases welcome 3 fans, the rear one is supplied, the two frontal ones have to be purchased.

I see them between like 37 and 40 euros on Amazon, and from most web shops.

Bitfenix Nova
https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/prod ... g#overview]

which comes in black or white (and with a side window panel model too, more expensive)

Amazon Spain
https://www.amazon.es/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... fenix+nova


Bitfenix Neos
https://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/prod ... assis/neos

which comes in black or white and with blue / grey / black / red front panel options

Amazon Spain
https://www.amazon.es/s/ref=sr_st_price ... e-asc-rank


A bit more sophisticated, and around 49 euros (more expensive from Amazon Spain, it seems), the Antec P7 Silent
https://antec.com/product/case/p7-silent.php

Amazon Spain
https://www.amazon.es/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_ ... +P7+silent


Also, Cooler Master has a new series Q300 but I'm unsure of the prices yet and I think it will be more like 60-65 euros
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mini-t ... box-q300l/
http://www.coolermaster.com/case/mini-t ... box-q300p/

There are several other cases possible.

Can you point me to the web shops you could buy from?

Looking for other items now.

[Chrisax]

Added Amazon Spain links to the post above.

[Chrisax]

Fan:
You don't need much really. One additional fan on the front should be enough.

You could got for an inexpensive Arctic Cooling Arctic F12, simple, very good airflow, decently quiet for the price and the airflow (really quiet fans are much more expensive, and sadly the noise depends a lot on the way the air travels from the front panel.).

OR if you want the fan to be piloted by your motherboard, and possibly software, then, Arctic Cooling Arctic F12 PWM Rev.2
Amazon Spain:
https://www.amazon.es/Arctic-Fan-F12-TC ... Arctic+F12
https://www.amazon.es/ARCTIC-F12-PWM-po ... +PWM+Rev.2


Cooling paste:
Did your CPU cooler got removed or lifted from its base?
Anyhow, if you have to reinstall it... tricky job. You need to very kindly remove the previous paste or adhesive without scratching the CPU. That's some test of patience sometimes.

You need to know that thermic paste for PCs, sold in computer shops in small tubes, is a product with a huge profit margin compared to the industrial price in somewhat larger quantities and some brands just push their prices through the roof of decency. So let's pick something decent...

Cooler Master MasterGel Pro
Amazon Spain:
https://www.amazon.es/Cooler-Master-Mas ... terGel+Pro

You can also buy replacement adhesive pads, usually without a brand. No clue how good they are though.


In my opinion, you don't need extra cooling for your GPU if your case got a decent airflow properly. Your Asus cooling system works well (and you can likely use the software delivered with the card to tweak GPU cooling IF you really need it).

You can use CPUID HWmonitor free version, very reliable software, to check your CPU and GPU temperature
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
(Pay attention to refusing any additional software during installation, it MAY happen that you're offered extra unwanted stuff.)


Screws... Not sure what screws you need. Search for "tornillos de la computadora" (without quotes) on Amazon Spain
Amazon Spain:
https://www.amazon.es/s/ref=nb_sb_noss? ... omputadora

[stokken]

Yes i removed the fan from cpu as need to make sure i got all in 1 box, before i have just used some paper to remove paste with out any problems

Im not sure on cabinet yet , i dont really care if it special mod/windowed, some cabinets come with a fan?

[stokken]

Looking at https://www.amazon.es/BitFenix-Nova-Bla ... fenix+nova
For now
Paste and fan will be same really as posted

2 fans
1 paste
Case
Screws
About 75€ thats not to bad really would have cost me a lot more in norway + freight

[Chrisax]

All the cases I mentioned come with one rear fan.

About 75€ thats not to bad really would have cost me a lot more in norway + freight

Always ask Lil' Chrisax; he is still a bit useful.

Note that you can save a few euros if you take a Nova without window. (Depends on the vendor though.)