MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
This is not totally new but the threat came back and went worse. Anyhow, don't panic.
If you use Adobe Acrobat / Adobe reader for PDF files and/or Adobe Flash player, you MUST upgrade (free) to the last versions.
Malicious software on some websites can use the files you play or download and these programs to install malware on your computer. (If you use FTP accounts somewhere, this is even worse as they can get your FTP connection codes and possibly contaminate your own websites or give access to them.)
Attacks from Gumblar Rise by 190%
(15th May 2009)
Infection rates for an attack that has been slowly spreading since late
March have jumped nearly 190 percent in the last week. The attack,
called Gumblar, infects legitimate websites with malicious code causing
visitors to the site to be infected with a family of Trojans. The
attack targets known exploits in Adobe PDF and Adobe Flash files. Once
a system has been compromised, the malware will steal any FTP
credentials on the user's PC and replace the links in Google search
results, which allows the attackers to redirect the user to a site of
the attacker's choosing. Users are advised to update to the latest
versions of Adobe software.
EDIT: a clear explanation:
http://www.webologist.co.uk/2009/05/gum ... emove.html
Other sources
http://www.scmagazineus.com/Gumblar-web ... le/136836/
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/ ... erated.htm
As usual, it's is hard to find any specific information about such situations on Adobe's site.
The security page is here
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/index.html
Information about the concerned software is here
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/i ... #readerwin
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/index.html#flash
If you use Adobe Acrobat / Adobe reader for PDF files and/or Adobe Flash player, you MUST upgrade (free) to the last versions.
Malicious software on some websites can use the files you play or download and these programs to install malware on your computer. (If you use FTP accounts somewhere, this is even worse as they can get your FTP connection codes and possibly contaminate your own websites or give access to them.)
Attacks from Gumblar Rise by 190%
(15th May 2009)
Infection rates for an attack that has been slowly spreading since late
March have jumped nearly 190 percent in the last week. The attack,
called Gumblar, infects legitimate websites with malicious code causing
visitors to the site to be infected with a family of Trojans. The
attack targets known exploits in Adobe PDF and Adobe Flash files. Once
a system has been compromised, the malware will steal any FTP
credentials on the user's PC and replace the links in Google search
results, which allows the attackers to redirect the user to a site of
the attacker's choosing. Users are advised to update to the latest
versions of Adobe software.
EDIT: a clear explanation:
http://www.webologist.co.uk/2009/05/gum ... emove.html
Other sources
http://www.scmagazineus.com/Gumblar-web ... le/136836/
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/ ... erated.htm
As usual, it's is hard to find any specific information about such situations on Adobe's site.
The security page is here
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/index.html
Information about the concerned software is here
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/i ... #readerwin
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/index.html#flash
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
so how do you identify if you have the virus? Will normal scans identify it? or what is the fix?
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
ATM, it's a bit of a mess, as most anti-virus and anti-malware software do not detect it correctly. But no reason to panic.Elrojo wrote:so how do you identify if you have the virus? Will normal scans identify it? or what is the fix?
You'll find below an article (for what it is worth) about how to deal with the threat. There will be more information available in the future, likely. Also all security software should be updated soon.
Anyhow the FIRST thing to do is to update your Adobe Reader and Acrobat, and your Adobe Flash player to the last versions. (Months old already but most people don't have them.)
The second thing, if you have a doubt, and before all security software companies update their software is to install AVAST anti-virus free version that is able to detect gumblar.
http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html
But at the time of writing other programs are maybe already updated (check with their publishers).
Note that people who run / manage / create websites and/or use FTP are mainly concerned.
http://www.webologist.co.uk/2009/05/gum ... emove.html
(Added this URL to the first post of this thread)
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
ok so no idea if i have the virus. I did the updates at work for adobe and then D/L Avast. When i installed it at work it restarted then did like a scan before windows launched. It said it found 2x trojan in win32 or something but that was it.
Laptop at home was a different story. I was using McAfee cos it was free w/ the laptop but it seems that i cant get it to scan. Kept giving me an error message with a number. So i uninstalled it and tried to re-install it off the CD and it installed all components except the virus scanner. So I D/L the client (since i'm registered) and when i went to install it says there is a problem with javascript so it wont run. I went to java and D/L the latest version of that, restarted and tried again. No dice. I did read that the virus may try to stop you from installing and/or running anti virus, so i'm a little worried about the issues. I think for about 2-3 weeks i kept getting a pop-up from McAfee saying that my computer was unprotected and that the virus scan, IM scan and others had been turned off. But i just thought it was windows being its usual stupid self.
So i D/L avast and it is scanning. It seems as though it just does a slow progressive scan of the HDD. Is that about right? It didnt do the scan prior to windows logging on. I did this 2 times and no scan. So i'm (with contempt) using windows defender to scan as well as having Avast scan. I havent seen any issues yet. I do have that CCleaner program they talked about that i run every 2-3 days when i've finished using the comp.
I'm so far just relying on Avast to work now i guess since i uninstalled McAfee and now it wont let me reinstall.
So whats the verdict? Scrap the computer and take to snail mail and give up AO?
Laptop at home was a different story. I was using McAfee cos it was free w/ the laptop but it seems that i cant get it to scan. Kept giving me an error message with a number. So i uninstalled it and tried to re-install it off the CD and it installed all components except the virus scanner. So I D/L the client (since i'm registered) and when i went to install it says there is a problem with javascript so it wont run. I went to java and D/L the latest version of that, restarted and tried again. No dice. I did read that the virus may try to stop you from installing and/or running anti virus, so i'm a little worried about the issues. I think for about 2-3 weeks i kept getting a pop-up from McAfee saying that my computer was unprotected and that the virus scan, IM scan and others had been turned off. But i just thought it was windows being its usual stupid self.
So i D/L avast and it is scanning. It seems as though it just does a slow progressive scan of the HDD. Is that about right? It didnt do the scan prior to windows logging on. I did this 2 times and no scan. So i'm (with contempt) using windows defender to scan as well as having Avast scan. I havent seen any issues yet. I do have that CCleaner program they talked about that i run every 2-3 days when i've finished using the comp.
I'm so far just relying on Avast to work now i guess since i uninstalled McAfee and now it wont let me reinstall.
So whats the verdict? Scrap the computer and take to snail mail and give up AO?
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Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Avast > Mcafee anyway so no biggy for you there. 
Chris, does this thing go up for Linux OS too like Ubuntu? I assume not but..?

Chris, does this thing go up for Linux OS too like Ubuntu? I assume not but..?
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Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Thx for the headsup chris. Btw rojo is your windows instalation fully updated cause there was a security update pretty recently that killed a trojan on my PC.
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Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
1) An anti-virus or anti-spyware is as good as its last virus/spyware database is good. Period. Wonderful algorithms can't do anything if the database is outdated or incomplete. (Don't believe too much in so-called "heuristic" systems implemented in security software.) Avast was better here because it was updated first. Could have been another one as well. Avast, AVG, McAfee, to name a few work all well. Norton Security is a resource hog that may create several compatibilities issues. (If it doesn't on your comp, then you can be happy with it.) Still, it works but it's not necessarily the faster one regarding updates.
2) An anti-virus or anti-spyware NOT regularly updated is useless, and even dangerous in some situations.
3) To my knowledge (so I may be wrong), Gumblar can do its dirty work only on Windows systems. But if you have windows applications running on a Linux systems under a Windows emulator like Wine, I can't guarantee what may happen if your FTP software is a Windows one and not a Linux one. You need someone more knowledgeable than me about Gumblar.
4) Once Gumlar has reached a web site, it will be able to contaminate the users of that site, regardless of the fact the web server works with Linux (Apache server, lighthttp, etc.) or Windows web server. Simply because it uses the web features themselves.
5) Two anti-virus or anti-spyware usually can't coexist on the same computer. Not only they can't run together (sooner or later something will happen), but even if you don't launch one, the other will probably detect it and will see it as a potential threat.
6) Elrojo, not sure about your laptop. I'll reread carefully what you said. But so far, I'd say first run windows update and update everything regarding security and web in general, and all the basic programs in Windows.
2) An anti-virus or anti-spyware NOT regularly updated is useless, and even dangerous in some situations.
3) To my knowledge (so I may be wrong), Gumblar can do its dirty work only on Windows systems. But if you have windows applications running on a Linux systems under a Windows emulator like Wine, I can't guarantee what may happen if your FTP software is a Windows one and not a Linux one. You need someone more knowledgeable than me about Gumblar.
4) Once Gumlar has reached a web site, it will be able to contaminate the users of that site, regardless of the fact the web server works with Linux (Apache server, lighthttp, etc.) or Windows web server. Simply because it uses the web features themselves.
5) Two anti-virus or anti-spyware usually can't coexist on the same computer. Not only they can't run together (sooner or later something will happen), but even if you don't launch one, the other will probably detect it and will see it as a potential threat.
6) Elrojo, not sure about your laptop. I'll reread carefully what you said. But so far, I'd say first run windows update and update everything regarding security and web in general, and all the basic programs in Windows.
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Gumlar was named after the site it tried to connect to (no I won't give the URL). The site is dead.
Good news? Not exaclty: a new version of Gumlar, is now working for a site called Martuz (I won't give the URL either), and the system has been improved. Martuz was discovered a few days ago, and named recently.
Precautions for your PC are stll the same. Update Flash / Acrobat / Adobe reader and scan your PC (Avast works vs Gumlar: I just was able to verify it on an HTML email. Other antivirus will certainly be able to detect it soon, maybe they are already.)
On the other hand, for webmasters, the work is now harder as martuz hides its code better on websites. One explanation among several others:
http://blog.unmaskparasites.com/2009/05 ... r-exploit/
It seems that we are going to face a series of gumlar-like exploits.
Good news? Not exaclty: a new version of Gumlar, is now working for a site called Martuz (I won't give the URL either), and the system has been improved. Martuz was discovered a few days ago, and named recently.
Precautions for your PC are stll the same. Update Flash / Acrobat / Adobe reader and scan your PC (Avast works vs Gumlar: I just was able to verify it on an HTML email. Other antivirus will certainly be able to detect it soon, maybe they are already.)
On the other hand, for webmasters, the work is now harder as martuz hides its code better on websites. One explanation among several others:
http://blog.unmaskparasites.com/2009/05 ... r-exploit/
It seems that we are going to face a series of gumlar-like exploits.
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Cheers chris.
I got rid of McAfee just because of the scan issues. Avast has been running for 8 hrs and scanned 8k files with no threats. Windows defender found nadda also, neither did the lastest windows based malware scan.
Grind... Yeah i updated windows just before i did all this crap. I also updated Adobe aaaand Adobe flash to the lastest ones from Chris's cut and paste link.
I'll just change all my P/W at work for netbanking etc today as work seems to be fine. But i do check my balances regularly of those things so nothing would really slip through for very long. Apparently small time money theft isnt the aim of Gumblar anyway. It was to take money off google by directing people to "certain websites". I'm not sure what that means but i hope i'm safe here in little Aussie. They said only like 2300 sites were infected. I really only use this webpage, ao-universe, auno and my emails so hopefully of the BILLIONS of other sites that it could effect it hit those rather than the few that i use!
Oh windows keeps telling me Avast is out of date, even though when i click update it tells me its the latest update. So lucky me gets a pop-up every 5 mins telling my computer is at risk. Thanks Windows!
I got rid of McAfee just because of the scan issues. Avast has been running for 8 hrs and scanned 8k files with no threats. Windows defender found nadda also, neither did the lastest windows based malware scan.
Grind... Yeah i updated windows just before i did all this crap. I also updated Adobe aaaand Adobe flash to the lastest ones from Chris's cut and paste link.
I'll just change all my P/W at work for netbanking etc today as work seems to be fine. But i do check my balances regularly of those things so nothing would really slip through for very long. Apparently small time money theft isnt the aim of Gumblar anyway. It was to take money off google by directing people to "certain websites". I'm not sure what that means but i hope i'm safe here in little Aussie. They said only like 2300 sites were infected. I really only use this webpage, ao-universe, auno and my emails so hopefully of the BILLIONS of other sites that it could effect it hit those rather than the few that i use!
Oh windows keeps telling me Avast is out of date, even though when i click update it tells me its the latest update. So lucky me gets a pop-up every 5 mins telling my computer is at risk. Thanks Windows!
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
The red pop-up from Avast? Screenshot please?Elrojo wrote:Oh windows keeps telling me Avast is out of date, even though when i click update it tells me its the latest update. So lucky me gets a pop-up every 5 mins telling my computer is at risk. Thanks Windows!
This is not at all a normal time for a scan of 8K files. What were your scan options? Default ones?Elrojo wrote:Avast has been running for 8 hrs and scanned 8k files with no threats.
I just checked, with "standard" scan, it took less than 4 minutes to scan like 8K files, on a relatively old Athlon 3200+ with 1 GB RAM and an Hitachi/IBM SATA2 HD.
Edit: 89958 files / 5298 folders / 14.4 GB total (just my main programs folder... sigh)
Time spent scanning in Standard Mode: 21 minutes
Maybe try the following too: turn windows security off before running Avast (a clean install ofc) but disconnect your computer from the Internet before turning Windows firewall off, of course!
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
looked at windows this morning and now it trusts that avast is the latest update!
With regards to avast scanning. On 2 of the computers i installed it on at work after restart it ran a pre-windows full check which took about 15-25mins. But after that it just seems to click over. The first one i installed has been running for about 36hours and it has checked 24K files. IT just seems to scan and scan and scan. The laptop at home didnt run the bot-up scan but is just scanning files. There is no control panel or setting as far as i can see to say "run full scan" or "schedule". I D/L the home version, if that helps.
With regards to avast scanning. On 2 of the computers i installed it on at work after restart it ran a pre-windows full check which took about 15-25mins. But after that it just seems to click over. The first one i installed has been running for about 36hours and it has checked 24K files. IT just seems to scan and scan and scan. The laptop at home didnt run the bot-up scan but is just scanning files. There is no control panel or setting as far as i can see to say "run full scan" or "schedule". I D/L the home version, if that helps.
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Elrojo, in the system tray, look for the Avast icon, r-click it and you'll see the menu. You can start scans and set them, and you also have Program Settings. Do you have that?
Something is totally wrong on your systems. In the end you might kill your hard drive. "36hours and it has checked 24K files" means something is interfering with Avast, or something is corrupted. Can't say. Please have first a look at the menu.
Something is totally wrong on your systems. In the end you might kill your hard drive. "36hours and it has checked 24K files" means something is interfering with Avast, or something is corrupted. Can't say. Please have first a look at the menu.
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i have the program settings. Not sure where you start a scan though. I have a few menu's like... common, Appearance, chest, confirmations etc. But nothing that says "start scan" or scan now or schedule scan.
From what it looks like i just let it run in the back ground and it does its little real time scanning. I dont mean that i said "scan now" and then it took 36 hours. I just mean the number ticks over. ATM the last file is scanned was for Athens Paladins.
On a side note WMP 11 is now not working. I click on it and nothing opens. I click on a movie and say "open with WMP" and nothing happens.... Any ideas?
From what it looks like i just let it run in the back ground and it does its little real time scanning. I dont mean that i said "scan now" and then it took 36 hours. I just mean the number ticks over. ATM the last file is scanned was for Athens Paladins.
On a side note WMP 11 is now not working. I click on it and nothing opens. I click on a movie and say "open with WMP" and nothing happens.... Any ideas?
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
Not sure how your avast is installed or what is happening. Here are the menus though:
R click Icon in system tray
If you click on the Star Avast! Antivirus line you get this
From inside the Window just above or from inside the systemtray menu, you can access Programs Settings Do you have that? Please say. Because you confuse me.
About Windows Media Player, looks like something is corrupted. Probably in the actions attached to a kind of file. It can be edited through Windows tools but it's a bit complicated if you're not used to that job. (In File explorer, Options, Files (or folders) otopns, Files Types, then Advanced options for each file type concerned. You'd better reinstall WMP.
Or get VLC media player free. http://www.videolan.org/
R click Icon in system tray
If you click on the Star Avast! Antivirus line you get this
From inside the Window just above or from inside the systemtray menu, you can access Programs Settings Do you have that? Please say. Because you confuse me.

About Windows Media Player, looks like something is corrupted. Probably in the actions attached to a kind of file. It can be edited through Windows tools but it's a bit complicated if you're not used to that job. (In File explorer, Options, Files (or folders) otopns, Files Types, then Advanced options for each file type concerned. You'd better reinstall WMP.
Or get VLC media player free. http://www.videolan.org/
Re: MALWARE vs Adobe software / PDF reader / Flash player
yes i have those menu's!! I worked it out last night. It scanned 100K files in about 30 mins. Not sure about WMP, i do have VLC player and WinAmp. I just liked WMP as i was used to it and had all my stuff organised in it. I also have iTunes but i dont like it as much.
It didnt find any viruses in the scan btw
It didnt find any viruses in the scan btw